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		<title>Did Mead Johnson Add Perchlorate To Baby Formula Deliberately?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a study released in March 2009 the CDC states that it found perchlorate in 15 powdered baby formulas. Perchlorate is a chemical that is used to create jet fuel, and it is known to cause thyroid disease. The report also states that perchlorate was found in all brands of powdered formula, but it was [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nature.com/jes/journal/v20/n3/full/jes200918a.html">In a study released in March 2009 the CDC states that it found perchlorate in 15 powdered baby formulas.</a> Perchlorate is a chemical that is used to create jet fuel, and it is known to cause thyroid disease. The report also states that perchlorate was found in all brands of powdered formula, but it was exceptionally higher in milk derived from cows. The levels of perchlorate found were in most cases were under the <a href="http://www.epa.gov/fedfac/documents/perchlorate_qa.htm">EPAs danger zone of 4 to 18 ppb</a>, but in at least one test it was in that range. Combining this formula with contaminated water would push this well into the EPA limit. We should also keep in mind that this exposure range is what the EPA thinks is bad levels of perchlorate to a grown human, not a new born baby with a developing brain. The problem with this report, and how the the main stream media handled it was that they both refused to release which brands contained the the highest amounts of the poison.</p>
<p>So I read the report and found two things that really stood out:</p>
<p>First the journal states: &#8220;<a href="http://www.awwa.org/files/Advocacy/PerchlorateOccurrenceReportFinalb02092005.pdf">Perchlorate has been detected in drinking water from 5.4% of US utilities in at least 26 states and 2 territories</a>&#8220;. Let me think about this&#8230; 5.4% of water sources in the United States are contaminated with the poison, but they find perchlorate in all formula? This meaning that all powdered baby formula plants (if being contaminated by local water supplies) are at one of the 5.4% water sources that have the poison in it. I think the odds come out to be 5.4% to the 4th power which is .00085%&#8230; not very likely.</p>
<p>Second the journal states: &#8220;<a href="http://www.ers.usda.gov/publications/efan02001/efan02001d.pdf">It is also interesting to note that according to the United States Department of Agriculture&#8217;s Economic Research Service, in 2000</a> (the latest year for which data were available), Brands D and E in <a href="http://www.nature.com/jes/journal/v20/n3/fig_tab/jes200918t3.html#figure-title">Table 3</a> commanded 87% of the PIF market share&#8221;. This is &#8220;interesting&#8221; in more than one way. First if you look at the table it is talking about brands D &amp; E have the highest perchlorate concentrations which in at least one case 5X the the amount that the brand with the least concentration contains. Second if you look at the report <span class="source">Infant Formula Prices and Availability: Final Report to Congress&#8221;</span> it shows that these two brands are Ross (Now strictly Abbott Labs) that make Similac which is at 35% market share, and Mead Johnson creators of Enfamil that has 52% of market share.</p>
<p>There are only 4 manufactures of formula in the US, two of them we listed above, the other two are Carnation (Nestle) and PBM who mainly creates store branded type formulas. So using logic we see that these are the two brands with low levels of perchlorate.</p>
<p>Several months after this perchlorate report in April 2009 <a href="http://industry.bnet.com/advertising/10001876/mead-johnson-sued-a-3rd-time-over-alleged-false-baby-formula-ads/">PBM files law suit against the Mead Johnson company over false advertising clams</a>. That suit claimed Mead Johnson sent out mailers saying &#8220;Enfamil LIPILs unique formulation is not available in any store brands&#8221;.Â  To this claim PBM said that the ingredients were identical, and that they were &#8220;sourced from the same supplier&#8221;. In December <a href="http://www.adweek.com/aw/content_display/news/e3i6328aaffeb014c13c9507a64d329a6f6">PBM wins the lawsuit proving the fact that the formulas are made not only of the same ingredients, but received from the same supplier.</a> So if PBM is one of the formulas that contains a fraction of perchlorate that Enfamil contains, but they are made from the same ingredient stock that would mean that something unique to the Enfamil production plant is introducing the poison into the product.</p>
<p>The next logical step would be to look at the <a href="http://www.awwa.org/files/Advocacy/PerchlorateOccurrenceReportFinalb02092005.pdf">water supplies in the area where the manufacturing plants are, and cross reference them to government maps that show where the poison is contaminating water.</a></p>
<p>Abbott Labs, makers of Similac, have 5 plants in the US: Columbus Ohio, Sturgis Michigan, Altavista Virginia, Casa Grande Arizona, and Fairfield California. The Arizona, and California sites are close to spill/positive test areas, but the other sites are not. The problem with Similac is that I do not have any thing that says they have the same supplier as PBM and Mead Johnson.</p>
<p>Looking at Mead Johnson&#8217;s website mjn.com under careers you can see the two &#8220;manufacturing facilities&#8221; which are Evansville Indiana and Zeeland Michigan. Doing a cross reference with the site locations, and maps the government has on perchlorate testing &amp; contamination shows that Indiana is one of the states that has not tested positive for the chemical, and even though Michigan has tested positive, it was on the other side of the state from Zeeland.</p>
<p>So where is the perchlorate coming from? <a href="http://mjn.com/app/iwp/MJN/Content2.do?dm=mj&#038;id=/MJN_Home2/mjnBtnNews2/mjnBtnNutritionNews/09Perchlorate&#038;iwpst=MJN&#038;ls=0&#038;csred=1&#038;r=3446492430">A statement on Mead Johnson&#8217;s website</a> <span class="source">Information About Perchlorate</span> they state &#8220;perchlorate can be present in the environment, drinking water, and the food supply, and consequently trace levels may be found in infant formula&#8221;. So we have evidence that it is not from the food supply Mead Johnson is using since PBM uses the same ingredient source but has lower levels. We have also disproved that it is from the water since Mead Johnson MFG plants are no where near contaminated water sites. If Mead Johnson&#8217;s water supply and supplier are both clear of perchlorate contamination where is it coming from? This leaves the final contamination source to be &#8220;environment&#8221; as Mead Johnson calls it, or as I would call it, their manufacturing plant.</p>
<p>What has come of this study? Doing a search for &#8220;perchlorate&#8221; on Similac &amp; Enfamil&#8217;s website produces wording of no matching results for my request. I guess they were not to concerned by the report. This looks like a eugenics operation to me, the two biggest brands that everyone gets on WIC vouchers? They screw up your thyroid gland with perchlorate laced baby formula, and then when you are older and your body is jacked you can buy their pharmaceuticals that do the opposite of what it is supposed to &#8212; like anti-depressants that make you want to go and kill your self, or cervical cancer shots that give you cervical cancer.</p>
<p>CDC Report:<a href=" http://www.nature.com/jes/journal/v20/n3/full/jes200918a.html#bib34"> http://www.nature.com/jes/journal/v20/n3/full/jes200918a.html#bib34</a></p>
<p>Perchlorate Map/Report: <a href="http://www.awwa.org/files/Advocacy/PerchlorateOccurrenceReportFinalb02092005.pdf">http://www.awwa.org/files/Advocacy/PerchlorateOccurrenceReportFinalb02092005.pdf</a></p>
<p>PBM sues Mead Johnson over false advertisement claims: WIC Formula Report: <a href="http://www.ers.usda.gov/publications/efan02001/efan02001d.pdf">http://www.ers.usda.gov/publications/efan02001/efan02001d.pdf</a></p>
<p>Mead Johnson sued over advertising: <a href="http://industry.bnet.com/advertising/10001876/mead-johnson-sued-a-3rd-time-over-alleged-false-baby-formula-ads/">http://industry.bnet.com/advertising/10001876/mead-johnson-sued-a-3rd-time-over-alleged-false-baby-formula-ads/</a></p>
<p>Mead Johnson Does Not Care About Perchlorate Contamination: <a href="http://mjn.com/app/iwp/MJN/Content2.do?dm=mj&#038;id=/MJN_Home2/mjnBtnNews2/mjnBtnNutritionNews/09Perchlorate&#038;iwpst=MJN&#038;ls=0&#038;csred=1&#038;r=3446492430">http://mjn.com/app/iwp/MJN/Content2.do?dm=mj&#038;id=/MJN_Home2/mjnBtnNews2/mjnBtnNutritionNews/09Perchlorate&#038;iwpst=MJN&#038;ls=0&#038;csred=1&#038;r=3446492430</a></p>
<p>EPA chemical facts on perchlorate: <a href="http://www.epa.gov/fedfac/documents/perchlorate_qa.htm">http://www.epa.gov/fedfac/documents/perchlorate_qa.htm</a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read this article at &#8220;realclimate.org&#8221; about the CRU email hack (aka ClimateGate) incident. They would not touch on the Freedom of Information requests, and I red the first 10 or so pages of comments and anyone that asked about the FOI request were ignored. So I just had to comment on some of this [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read this article at &#8220;realclimate.org&#8221; about the CRU email hack (aka ClimateGate) incident. They would not touch on the Freedom of Information requests, and I red the first 10 or so pages of comments and anyone that asked about the FOI request were ignored. So I just had to comment on some of this article, and show why you do not ask bank robbers if they robbed the bank.</p>
<blockquote><p>As people are also no doubt aware the breaking into of computers and releasing private information is illegal, and regardless of how they were obtained, posting private correspondence without permission is unethical. We therefore arenâ€™t going to post any of the emails here.</p></blockquote>
<p>They are taking the moral high ground by not posting the emails. My question is why don&#8217;t you just give your self permission and post your own emails? O yes, because you are some of the crooks behind this whole scandal, and it was your emails that were leaked.Â  So high roaders lets talk about unethical behavior. Is it ethical to try and black ball any scientific journal, or scientists that comes up with any evidence apposed to global warming? For a second lets pretend that global warming was true&#8230; call me crazy but wouldn&#8217;t it be a good thing if they found out the earth was not &#8220;warming&#8221; anymore?</p>
<blockquote><p>We were made aware of the existence of this archive last Tuesday morning when the hackers attempted to upload it to RealClimate, and we notified CRU of their possible security breach later that day.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Nonetheless, these emails (a presumably careful selection of (possibly edited?) correspondence dating back to 1996 and as recently as Nov 12) are being widely circulated, and therefore require some comment.</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course no one is allowed to think that there is a conspiracy about global warming, but these guys are allowed to say the hacker edited down to 120 megabytes of info ( 2000+ something files, emails, FORTRAN global warming code, models, etc&#8230;). So lets examine the hacker file editor conspiracy theory.Â  For this to happen I guess not only was this a super crazy hacker, but they were also a global warming expert that knows exactly what to cut out to post to the public. They also edited all this down in under a week? So I did a search on how much data is 120 megabytes:</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS;"><span style="color: #000000;"> How many 267 page books will fit on a 100 megabyte disk?</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li> <span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS;"><span style="color: #990000;">Assume 2500 characters per page, or 2500 bytes per page.</span></span></li>
<li> <span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS;"><span style="color: #990000;">2500 x 267 = 667,500 bytes/book 0r .6675 megabytes/book</span></span></li>
<li> <span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS;"><span style="color: #990000;">Therefore, the number of books is 100/.6675 = 149.8.Â  Let&#8217;s call it 149 books, or even 150.</span></span></li>
</ul>
</blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.facstaff.bucknell.edu/mastascu/elessonshtml/DataFiles/DataFile1.html">http://www.facstaff.bucknell.edu/mastascu/elessonshtml/DataFiles/DataFile1.html</a></p>
<p>Well that&#8217;s a hell of a lot of data to have &#8220;careful selection&#8221; over and &#8220;edit&#8221; down. Don&#8217;t forget 120 megabytes is what they twiddled it down to in 5 days! or by last Tuesday did they mean the 10th?Â  So I guess they just immediately edited &amp; posted them as they hacked the files off the server. Case solved! I have figured out the ClimateGate hacker&#8217;s identity.Â  Only one person I know that can hack computer systems, read &amp; edit data at mind boggling speeds: Lt Commander Data!</p>
<div id="attachment_411" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 300px"><a href="http://blog.bohonkey.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/datahacker.gif"><img class="size-full wp-image-411" title="datahacker" src="http://blog.bohonkey.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/datahacker.gif" alt="Good Job Data!" width="290" height="452" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Data you have been caught! Good Job!</p></div>
<blockquote><p>Since emails are normally intended to be private, people writing them are shall we say, somewhat freer in expressing themselves than they would in a public statement.</p></blockquote>
<p>This one from my perspective is interesting. From my experience while putting my self through school I first worked in a Wal-Mart store where the prerequisite to being hired is breathing. The level of childish things that went on were off the chart. I worked there for just over a year before I got a job doing computer support where you at least had to have a diploma. The level of drama was slightly lower but still nauseating. Once I graduated with my computer science degree and got a job with other professionals the drama level starts bouncing off of zero. So I&#8217;m guessing this rule does not apply to PhDs? Also they are dropping F-bombs in academic correspondence? Guess after Bachelors degree your ego explodes&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>More interesting is what is not contained in the emails. There is no evidence of any worldwide conspiracy, no mention of George Soros nefariously funding climate research</p></blockquote>
<p>By your own admissions your own website hosting is paid for by EMS.<br />
<a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/02/a-disclaimer/"> http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/02/a-disclaimer/</a></p>
<p>They try to down play it saying EMS does not buy them lunch, but how much does the bandwith for your site cost? Alexa.com ranks the site as 72,130th in the world, so I&#8217;m betting your bill is kind of high. They also say that EMS does not tell them what to write. Well my response to that would be if you turned around and said global warming was fake would they drop your site? I&#8217;m betting yes.<br />
<a href="http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/realclimate.org"> http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/realclimate.org</a></p>
<p>Who founded EMS? Arlie Schardt who was Al Gore&#8217;s press secretary for his presidential run.<br />
<a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/choice2000/gore/schardt.html"> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/choice2000/gore/schardt.html</a></p>
<p>Who is EMS?  = EMS/Science Communication Network, A Project Of Tides Center<br />
<a href="http://www.sos.wa.gov/charities/search_detail.aspx?charity_id=5740"> http://www.sos.wa.gov/charities/search_detail.aspx?charity_id=5740</a></p>
<p>Who funds EMS / Tides Foundation?<br />
Rockefeller Brother&#8217;s Fund:<br />
<a href="http://www.rbf.org/grantsdatabase/grantsdatabase_show.htm?doc_id=617346"> http://www.rbf.org/grantsdatabase/grantsdatabase_show.htm?doc_id=617346</a><br />
<a href="http://www.rbf.org/grantsdatabase/grantsdatabase_show.htm?doc_id=617342"> http://www.rbf.org/grantsdatabase/grantsdatabase_show.htm?doc_id=617342</a><br />
George Soros:<br />
<a href="http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/funderProfile.asp?fndid=5184"> http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/funderProfile.asp?fndid=5184</a></p>
<blockquote><p>No doubt, instances of cherry-picked and poorly-worded â€œgotchaâ€ phrases will be pulled out of context.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ok, so lets point out some of the things they said in the emails, but did not mention in the &#8220;realclimate&#8221; page. They do this because they think everyone is to stupid to go read a handful of these email&#8217;s for themselves, and instead take their word for it.</p>
<p>This is one from Michael Mann. I&#8217;m guessing he is second in command at &#8220;realclimate&#8221;. So in this email they are stating the bias of &#8220;realclimate&#8221; by screening comments. I mean if global warming is so bullet proof why wouldn&#8217;t you welcome anyone&#8217;s idea, and shoot it down with in the means of science and proof?</p>
<p>Michael Mann&#8217;s Bio<br />
<a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/category/extras/contributor-bios/"> http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/category/extras/contributor-bios/</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Original Filename: 1139521913.txt</p>
<p>From: &#8220;Michael E. Mann&#8221;<br />
To: Tim Osborn , Keith Briffa<br />
Subject: update<br />
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 16:51:xxx xxxx xxxx<br />
Reply-to: mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx<br />
Cc: Gavin Schmidt</p>
<p>guys, I see that Science has already gone online w/ the new issue, so we<br />
put up the RC post. By now, you&#8217;ve probably read that nasty McIntyre<br />
thing. Apparently, he violated the embargo on his website (I don&#8217;t go<br />
there personally, but so I&#8217;m informed).</p>
<p>Anyway, I wanted you guys to know that you&#8217;re free to use RC in any way<br />
you think would be helpful. <strong>Gavin and I are going to be careful about<br />
what comments we screen through, and we&#8217;ll be very careful to answer any<br />
questions that come up to any extent we can. On the other hand, you<br />
might want to visit the thread and post replies yourself. We can hold<br />
comments up in the queue and contact you about whether or not you think<br />
they should be screened through or not, and if so, any comments you&#8217;d<br />
like us to include.</strong></p>
<p>You&#8217;re also welcome to do a followup guest post, etc. think of RC as a<br />
resource that is at your disposal to combat any disinformation put<br />
forward by the McIntyres of the world. Just let us know. <strong>We&#8217;ll use our<br />
best discretion to make sure the skeptics dont&#8217;get to use the RC<br />
comments as a megaphone&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>mike</p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
Michael E. Mann<br />
Associate Professor<br />
Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC)</p>
<p>Department of Meteorology Phone: (8xxx xxxx xxxx<br />
503 Walker Building FAX: (8xxx xxxx xxxx<br />
The Pennsylvania State University email: mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx<br />
University Park, PA 16xxx xxxx xxxx</p>
<p>http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm</p></blockquote>
<p>This email is from Phil Jones the head of the Climatic Research Unit (CRU), and he tells fellow researchers to not tell anyone that there is a freedom of information act in the UK so that he can keep his global warming algorithm/data secret. Once again, if you have the proof what are you hiding? My comment is that forecasters cannot even tell me what the weather will be tomorrow &#8212; so what in the hell makes you think that anyone can tell you what the temperature will be in the next 5, 10, 15 years? He also says just to delete any FOI requests&#8230; nice.</p>
<blockquote><p>Original Filename: 1109021312.txt</p>
<p>From: Phil Jones<br />
To: mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx<br />
Subject: Fwd: CCNet: PRESSURE GROWING ON CONTROVERSIAL RESEARCHER TO DISCLOSE SECRET DATA<br />
Date: Mon Feb 21 16:28:xxx xxxx xxxx<br />
Cc: &#8220;raymond s. bradley&#8221; , &#8220;Malcolm Hughes&#8221;</p>
<p>Mike, Ray and Malcolm,<br />
The skeptics seem to be building up a head of steam here ! Maybe we can use<br />
this to our advantage to get the series updated !<br />
Odd idea to update the proxies with satellite estimates of the lower troposphere<br />
rather than surface data !. Odder still that they don&#8217;t realise that Moberg et al used the<br />
Jones and Moberg updated series !<br />
Francis Zwiers is till onside. He said that PC1s produce hockey sticks. He stressed<br />
that the late 20th century is the warmest of the millennium, but Regaldo didn&#8217;t bother<br />
with that. Also ignored Francis&#8217; comment about all the other series looking similar<br />
to MBH.<br />
<strong>The IPCC comes in for a lot of stick.<br />
Leave it to you to delete as appropriate !</strong><br />
Cheers<br />
Phil<br />
<strong>PS I&#8217;m getting hassled by a couple of people to release the CRU station temperature data.<br />
Don&#8217;t any of you three tell anybody that the UK has a Freedom of Information Act !</strong></p>
<p>X-Sender: f023@xxxxxxxxx.xxx<br />
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6<br />
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:40:05 +0000<br />
To: p.jones@xxxxxxxxx.xxx<br />
From: Keith Briffa<br />
Subject: Fwd: CCNet: PRESSURE GROWING ON CONTROVERSIAL RESEARCHER TO<br />
DISCLOSE SECRET DATA</p>
<p>Subject: CCNet: PRESSURE GROWING ON CONTROVERSIAL RESEARCHER TO DISCLOSE SECRET DATA<br />
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:02:xxx xxxx xxxx<br />
X-MS-Has-Attach:<br />
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:<br />
Thread-Topic: pressure grows on climate modellers to relase secret data<br />
Thread-Index: AcUXiV64e/f3Ii8uQSa0X88pndSQgQAl2O1w<br />
From: &#8220;Peiser, Benny&#8221;<br />
To: &#8220;cambridge-conference&#8221;<br />
X-UEA-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information<br />
X-UEA-MailScanner: Found to be clean<br />
CCNet 22/2xxx xxxx xxxxFebruary 2005<br />
PRESSURE GROWING ON CONTROVERSIAL RESEARCHER TO DISCLOSE SECRET DATA<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
This should have produced a healthy scientific debate. Instead, Mr. Mann tried<br />
to shut down debate by refusing to disclose the mathematical algorithm by which<br />
he arrived at his conclusions. All the same, Mr. Mann was forced to publish a<br />
retraction of some of his initial data, and doubts about his statistical methods<br />
have since grown.</p></blockquote>
<p>Phil Jones telling Michael Mann to delete emails in regards to FOI &#8212; and Michael saying aye aye sir!</p>
<blockquote><p>Original Filename:  1212063122.txt</p>
<p>From: Michael Mann<br />
To: Phil Jones<br />
Subject: Re: IPCC &amp; FOI<br />
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:12:02 -0400<br />
Reply-to: mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx</p>
<p>Hi Phil,</p>
<p>laughable that CA would claim to have discovered the problem. They would<br />
have run off to the Wall Street Journal for an exclusive were that to<br />
have been true.</p>
<p><strong>I&#8217;ll contact Gene about this ASAP.</strong> His new email is: generwahl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx</p>
<p>talk to you later,</p>
<p>mike</p>
<p>Phil Jones wrote:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; Mike,<br />
&gt; <strong>Can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith re AR4?</strong><br />
&gt; Keith will do likewise. He&#8217;s not in at the moment &#8211; minor family crisis.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Can you also email Gene and get him to do the same? I don&#8217;t<br />
&gt; have his new email address.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; We will be getting Caspar to do likewise.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; I see that CA claim they discovered the 1945 problem in the Nature<br />
&gt; paper!!<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Cheers<br />
&gt; Phil<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Prof. Phil Jones<br />
&gt; Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090<br />
&gt; School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784<br />
&gt; University of East Anglia<br />
&gt; Norwich Email p.jones@xxxxxxxxx.xxx<br />
&gt; NR4 7TJ<br />
&gt; UK<br />
&gt; &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
&gt;</p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
Michael E. Mann<br />
Associate Professor<br />
Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC)</p>
<p>Department of Meteorology Phone: (814) 863-4075<br />
503 Walker Building FAX: (814) 865-3663<br />
The Pennsylvania State University email: mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx<br />
University Park, PA 16802-5013</p>
<p>http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm</p></blockquote>
<p>Phil Jones Threatens to delete data before giving it over in FOI request.</p>
<blockquote><p>1107454306.txt</p>
<p>From: Phil Jones &lt;p.jones@xxxxxxxxx.xxx&gt;<br />
To: &#8220;Michael E. Mann&#8221; &lt;mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx&gt;<br />
Subject: Re: For your eyes only<br />
Date: Thu Feb 3 13:11:46 2005</p>
<p>Mike,<br />
It would be good to produce future series with and without the long<br />
instrumental series and maybe the documentary ones as well. The long<br />
measurements can then be used to validate the low-freq aspects at least<br />
back to 1750, maybe earlier with the documentary. There are some key<br />
warm decades (1730s, some in the 16th century) which the Moberg<br />
reconstruction completely misses and gives the impression that all<br />
years are cold between 1500 and 1750.<br />
Away Feb 6-10 and 12-20 and 22-25 (last in Chicago &#8211; on the panel to<br />
consider the vertical temp work of CCSP).<br />
Cheers<br />
Phil<br />
Cheers<br />
Phil<br />
At 15:26 02/02/2005, you wrote:</p>
<p>Thanks Phil,<br />
Yes, we&#8217;ve learned out lesson about FTP. We&#8217;re going to be very careful in the future<br />
what gets put there. Scott really screwed up big time when he established that directory<br />
so that Tim could access the data.<br />
Yeah, there is a freedom of information act in the U.S., and the contrarians are going<br />
to try to use it for all its worth. But there are also intellectual property rights<br />
issues, so it isn&#8217;t clear how these sorts of things will play out ultimately in the U.S.<br />
I saw the paleo draft (actually I saw an early version, and sent Keith some minor<br />
comments). It looks very good at present&#8211;will be interesting to see how they deal w/<br />
the contrarian criticisms&#8211;there will be many. I&#8217;m hoping they&#8217;ll stand firm (I believe<br />
they will&#8211;I think the chapter has the right sort of personalities for that)&#8230;<br />
Will keep you updated on stuff&#8230;<br />
talk to you later,<br />
mike<br />
At 09:41 AM 2/2/2005, Phil Jones wrote:</p>
<p>Mike,<br />
I presume congratulations are in order &#8211; so congrats etc !<br />
Just sent loads of station data to Scott. <strong>Make sure he documents everything better<br />
this time ! And don&#8217;t leave stuff lying around on ftp sites &#8211; you never know who is<br />
trawling<br />
them. The two MMs have been after the CRU station data for years. If they ever hear<br />
there<br />
is a Freedom of Information Act now in the UK, I think I&#8217;ll delete the file rather than<br />
send<br />
to anyone. Does your similar act in the US force you to respond to enquiries within<br />
20 days? &#8211; our does ! The UK works on precedents, so the first request will test it.<br />
We also<br />
have a data protection act, which I will hide behind. Tom Wigley has sent me a worried<br />
email when he heard about it &#8211; thought people could ask him for his model code. He<br />
has retired officially from UEA so he can hide behind that. IPR should be relevant<br />
here,<br />
but I can see me getting into an argument with someone at UEA who&#8217;ll say we must adhere<br />
to it !</strong><br />
Are you planning a complete reworking of your paleo series? Like to be involved if<br />
you are.<br />
Had a quick look at Ch 6 on paleo of AR4. The MWP side bar references Briffa, Bradley,<br />
Mann, Jones, Crowley, Hughes, Diaz &#8211; oh and Lamb ! Looks OK, but I can&#8217;t see it<br />
getting past all the stages in its present form. MM and SB get dismissed. All the<br />
right<br />
emphasis is there, but the wording on occasions will be crucial. I expect this to be<br />
the<br />
main contentious issue in AR4. I expect (hope) that the MSU one will fade away. It<br />
seems<br />
the more the CCSP (the thing Tom Karl is organizing) looks into Christy and Spencer&#8217;s<br />
series, the more problems/issues they are finding. I might be on the NRC review panel,<br />
so will keep you informed.<br />
Rob van Dorland is an LA on the Radiative Forcing chapter, so he&#8217;s a paleo expert<br />
by GRL statndards.<br />
Cheers<br />
Phil<br />
At 13:41 02/02/2005, you wrote:</p>
<p>Phil&#8211;thought I should let you know that its official now that I&#8217;ll be moving to Penn<br />
State next Fall.<br />
I&#8217;ll be in the Meteorology Dept. &amp; Earth and Environmental Systems Institute, and plan<br />
to head up a center for &#8220;Earth System History&#8221; within the institute. Will keep you<br />
updated,<br />
Mike</p>
<p>Prof. Phil Jones<br />
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090<br />
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784<br />
University of East Anglia<br />
Norwich Email p.jones@xxxxxxxxx.xxx<br />
NR4 7TJ<br />
UK<br />
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<p>______________________________________________________________<br />
Professor Michael E. Mann<br />
Department of Environmental Sciences, Clark Hall<br />
University of Virginia<br />
Charlottesville, VA 22903<br />
_______________________________________________________________________<br />
e-mail: mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Phone: (434) 924-7770 FAX: (434) 982-2137<br />
[1]http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml</p>
<p>Prof. Phil Jones<br />
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090<br />
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784<br />
University of East Anglia<br />
Norwich Email p.jones@xxxxxxxxx.xxx<br />
NR4 7TJ<br />
UK<br />
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<p>References</p>
<p><a href="1. http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml">1. http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml</a></p></blockquote>
<h3 class="storytitle">this is the article I have been bashing:</h3>
<h3 class="storytitle">The CRU hack</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/11/the-cru-hack/">http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/11/the-cru-hack/</a></p>
<p>You Too Can Read The Actual Emails&#8230; I just got through doing it for the past 4 or 5 hours, and I have to say a lot of them just plain old suck&#8230;</p>
<p>Me: Lt Commander Data!</p>
<p>Data: Yes captain?!</p>
<p>Me: next time do a better job screening the emails so I can just read the cool ones, and make one of the scientests murder a climate skeptic too, might as well make them really look bad!</p>
<p>Data:Â  aye aye captain!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.eastangliaemails.com/">http://www.eastangliaemails.com/</a></p>
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		<title>Climategate: Global Warming = Finance For World Government</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Praise God! a few weeks ago hackers busted into a British institute&#8217;s email archives and stole several thousand documents from top global warming &#8216;researchers&#8217;. The emails are very bad for these crooks because they show deceptiveness, lying, hiding of proof against global warming, black balling of anti-global warming scientist, and on and on and on&#8230; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Praise God! a few weeks ago hackers busted into a British institute&#8217;s email archives and stole several thousand documents from top global warming &#8216;researchers&#8217;. The emails are very bad for these crooks because they show deceptiveness, lying, hiding of proof against global warming, black balling of anti-global warming scientist, and on and on and on&#8230; Here are some articles I think are important.</p>
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<h3>Legal fallout of Climategate &#8211; CEI to sue NASA</h3>
<p>NASA claims national security over Freedom Of Information act request, now some of their scientists have been caught up in this global warming email scandal they have been served with intent to sue if they do not release everything they have.</p>
<blockquote><p>Legal counsel for the Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI) filed three Notices of Intent to File Suit against NASA today. Chris Horner, counsel of CEI, said that the <strong>suit against NASA and its Goddard Institute of Space Studies is for the agencyâ€™s failure to comply with Freedom of Information Act requests for the past three years. Employees of the agency have been mentioned in the now infamous Climategate emails.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-25061-Climate-Change-Examiner~y2009m11d24-Legal-fallout-of-Climategate--CEI-to-sue-NASA">http://www.examiner.com/x-25061-Climate-Change-Examiner~y2009m11d24-Legal-fallout-of-Climategate&#8211;CEI-to-sue-NASA</a></p>
<h3>Global Warming With the Lid Off</h3>
<p>If global warming is so bad, and everyone agrees on it, what are they hiding data sources? why are they deleting emails? why are they trying to black ball anyone with counter arguments?</p>
<blockquote><p>Consider the following note that appears to have been sent by Mr. Jones to Mr. Mann in May 2008: <strong>&#8220;Mike, Can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith re AR4? Keith will do likewise. . . . Can you also email Gene and get him to do the same?&#8221;</strong> AR4 is shorthand for the U.N.&#8217;s Intergovernmental Panel of Climate Change&#8217;s (IPCC) Fourth Assessment Report, presented in 2007 as the consensus view on how bad man-made climate change has supposedly become.<br />
In another email that seems to have been sent in September 2007 to Eugene Wahl of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration&#8217;s Paleoclimatology Program and to Caspar Ammann of the National Center for Atmospheric Research&#8217;s Climate and Global Dynamics Division, Mr. Jones writes: <strong>&#8220;[T]ry and change the Received date! Don&#8217;t give those skeptics something to amuse themselves with.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>When deleting, doctoring or withholding information didn&#8217;t work, Mr. Jones suggested an alternative in an August 2008 email to Gavin Schmidt of NASA&#8217;s Goddard Institute for Space Studies, copied to Mr. Mann. <strong>&#8220;The FOI [Freedom of Information] line we&#8217;re all using is this,&#8221; he wrote. &#8220;IPCC is exempt from any countries FOIâ€”the skeptics have been told this. Even though we . . . possibly hold relevant info the IPCC is not part of our remit (mission statement, aims etc) therefore we don&#8217;t have an obligation to pass it on.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>It also seems Mr. Mann and his friends weren&#8217;t averse to blacklisting scientists who disputed some of their contentions, or journals that published their work. <strong>&#8220;I think we have to stop considering &#8216;Climate Research&#8217; as a legitimate peer-reviewed journal,&#8221; goes one email, apparently written by Mr. Mann to several recipients in March 2003. &#8220;Perhaps we should encourage our colleagues in the climate research community to no longer submit to, or cite papers in, this journal.&#8221;</strong></p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704888404574547730924988354.html">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704888404574547730924988354.html</a></p>
<h3>CLIMATE BOMBSHELL: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy to â€œhideâ€ the real data on manmade climate change</h3>
<p>More admittance to hiding data of temperature decline, and black balling scientists.</p>
<blockquote><p>Iâ€™ve just completed Mikeâ€™s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from 1961 for Keithâ€™s to <strong>hide the decline.</strong></p>
<p>Proving bad behavior here is very difficult. <strong>If you think that Saiers is in the greenhouse skeptics camp, then, if we can find documentary evidence of this, we could go through official AGU channels to get him ousted.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.jonesreport.com/article/11_09/20climate_bombshell.html">http://www.jonesreport.com/article/11_09/20climate_bombshell.html</a></p>
<h3>Congress May Probe Leaked Global Warming E-Mails</h3>
<p>Al Gore&#8217;s silver bullet of proof which is computer simulations have been reviewed and are total crap where the coder mickey rigs stuff up, uses unvalidated source data (ever heard of crap in crap out?), and other blatant things to (as stated above) hide the temperature decline.</p>
<blockquote><p>Programmer-written comments inserted into CRU&#8217;s Fortran code have drawn fire as well. The file briffa_sep98_d.pro says:<strong> &#8220;Apply a VERY ARTIFICAL correction for decline!!&#8221;</strong> and <strong>&#8220;APPLY ARTIFICIAL CORRECTION.&#8221;</strong> Another, quantify_tsdcal.pro, says: <strong>&#8220;Low pass filtering at century and longer time scales never gets rid of the trend &#8211; so eventually I start to scale down the 120-yr low pass time series to mimic the effect of removing/adding longer time scales!&#8221;</strong></p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180.shtml">http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180.shtml</a></p>
<h3>Al Gore Purchases Carbon Credits From A Company He Himself Owns</h3>
<p>Al Gore&#8217;s favorite green product? your money in his pocket&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Al Gore defends his extraordinary personal energy usage by telling critics he maintains a &#8220;carbon neutral&#8221; lifestyle by buying &#8220;carbon offsets,&#8221; but the company that receives his payments turns out to be partly owned and chaired by the former vice president himself.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/251232">http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/251232</a></p>
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		<title>Legion: Satan&#8217;s Propaganda</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I found this movie clip and it is the most hard core Satan propaganda I have ever seen. It starts off with Micheal the archangel cutting off his wings, and a slave collar falling off of his neck. Then he goes and kills an &#8220;angel&#8221; (i put angel in quotes because all the angles in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this movie clip and it is the most hard core Satan propaganda I have ever seen. It starts off with Micheal the archangel cutting off his wings, and a slave collar falling off of his neck. Then he goes and kills an &#8220;angel&#8221; (i put angel in quotes because all the angles in this trailer truly look like demons) and when another &#8220;angel&#8221; says that he is disobeying god Michael says that &#8220;I&#8217;m following my own orders now&#8221;.</p>
<p>It has another &#8220;angel&#8221; that looks like an old woman and tells this younger woman that her baby is going to F***ING burn, then turns into a zombie, bites this other guys neck and starts demonically crawling up the walls like something out of the Exorcist movie.</p>
<p>Micheal&#8217;s roll in this move is to protect this baby that the old woman says is going to burn because this child is some kind of savior of humanity ( slap in the face to Jesus ).</p>
<p>The main &#8220;villain&#8221; of the movie (other than God him self) is the angel Gabriel. When he first appears Micheal basically tells Gabriel that he is an idiot for following God&#8217;s commandments.</p>
<p>I also find it interesting the title of the movie, comparing God&#8217;s angels to the daemon that Jesus cast out of the possessed man:</p>
<h4>Mark 5 &#8211; <sup id="en-KJV-24372" class="versenum">7</sup>And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not. <sup id="en-KJV-24373" class="versenum">8</sup>For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit. <sup id="en-KJV-24374" class="versenum">9</sup>And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, <em>My name is Legion: for we are many. </em></h4>
<p>This movie is total satan propaganda&#8230; It demonizes God all-mighty, and says his angels are savage brain eating zombie/daemons.Â  It states that Michael (God&#8217;s top angel) is smarter &amp; wiser than God, and that God is really a slave master (hence the slave collar thing that falls off of Micheal&#8217;s neck). So when Micheal does something &#8220;noble&#8221; to save humans, this gives power to lucifer by showing that maybe he was not wrong and/or maybe had noble reasoning when he fell from heaven.</p>
<p>to watch this really screwed up trailer go to this website, and click on &#8220;restricted version&#8221;:</p>
<p><a title="http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/legion/" href="http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/legion/">http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/legion/</a></p>
<p>Tamer version:<br />
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		<title>The Two Party System And The War Mentality</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am currently reading The Impact of Science on Society by Bertrand Russell. in the following quote he is talking about what he calls the `war mentality`&#8230; It is difficult for a man of ardent political convictions to admit either the shortcomings of politicians of his own Party of the merits of those the opposite [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am currently reading The Impact of Science on Society by Bertrand Russell. in the following quote he is talking about what he calls the `war mentality`&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>It is difficult for a man of ardent political convictions to admit either the shortcomings of politicians of his own Party of the merits of those the opposite Party. And so it comes about that, whenever an organization has a combatant purpose, its members are reluctant to criticize their officials, and tend to acquiesce in usurpations and arbitrary exercises of power which, but for the war mentality, they would bitterly resent. It is the war mentality that gives officials and governments their opportunity. -Bertrand Russell</p></blockquote>
<p>What he is talking about how governments use tribalism to conquer people.Â  Like in sports you have your local team that you are behind. Take the Razorbacks for instance, as long as I can remember they pretty much suck at football. If you were at a game and got tired of watching them loose would you instead start cheering on the other team? Probably not out of fear of rejection of the people around you. This is the same for our two system political party &#8212; most people have the same party affiliations as their parents. You are raised with the frame work that said political party is supposed to uphold (even though they hardly do). So even if the party is not upholding its own principles people will still call themselves one party or the other because they still believe in the frame work the party was originally built on deciding to ignore or play down things their party does.</p>
<p>Further galvanizing the left right paradigm is the right wing radio, and the liberal owned TV media. When your team is out of power your cheerleaders attack the team that is in power pointing out all the things they do wrong. When your team is in power the cheerleaders begin to overlook the lies and the bad things the politicians do. This keeps you locked into the left/right paradigm. What people need to realize if you want to get somewhat accurate news is to listen to the right wing while the left is in power, and watch the liberal media when the right is in power (and use your brain to filter out all the BS that they throw in).</p>
<p>Bertrand Russell is one of the main philosophers of the New World Order and a term that he uses often `the Scientific Dictatorship`.Â  This is one of the guys that designed the system we are living in today back in the 1940s &#8212; a global elitist that thinks you are a dog that&#8217;s only purpose in life is to work and serve the top 20 or so families in the world. Everyone just needs to realize that their football team stinks and is really selling you down the river into a one world government &#8212; so the question is how long are you going to sit and watch your team suck before you find one that is not taking your freedoms, listening to your phone calls, taking naked pictures of you at airports, and on and on and on&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>The Body Is A Machine&#8230;?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 06:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you ever heard someone say that &#8220;the body is a machine&#8221;? I sat and pondered this today from the view point of a Christian and an atheist. This phrase is usually evoked by non-believers as a way to demean or undermine exactly what humans are, but what I think is funny is when you [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever heard someone say that &#8220;the body is a machine&#8221;? I sat and pondered this today from the view point of a Christian and an atheist. This phrase is usually evoked by non-believers as a way to demean or undermine exactly what humans are, but what I think is funny is when you look up the definition in a dictionary or encyclopedia:</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/machine">an apparatus consisting of interrelated parts with separate functions, used in the performance of some kind of work: <em><span class="ital-inline">a sewing machine. </span></em></a><br />
<a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/machine">a person or thing that acts in a mechanical or automatic manner.  <em><span class="ital-inline">Routine work had turned her into a machine. </span></em></a><br />
<a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/machine"><span class="ital-inline">- http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/machine. </span></a></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.reference.com/browse/machine"><span class="columbiatitle">machine,</span> arrangement of moving and stationary mechanical parts used to perform some useful work or to provide transportation. From a historical perspective, many of the first machines were the result of human efforts to improve war-making capabilities; the term engineer at one time had an exclusively military connotation. In the United States the original colonies were not permitted to make or import machine tools; it was only after the Revolution that the first manufacturing machines were built (c.1790) by Samuel Slater for a textile mill in Pawtucket, R.I. &#8211; http://www.reference.com/browse/machine<br />
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<p>There are several issues when you look at it by definition:</p>
<ul>
<li> First Are humans really just a machine that does useful work? Machines work in a known and predictable way otherwise they would not be a very useful tool. Humans on the other hand have free will to be useful/useless, create/destroy, think/feel, and love/hate.</li>
<li> Second &#8211; is who made the machine? Last time I checked machines don&#8217;t make them selves from nothing or dirt and water.Â  Even though we are getting to the point where machines will make other machines a human still had to make the first one (but that is a entirely different and nauseating subject).</li>
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<p>Its interesting that we think we are so smart, and our technology is so advanced, but in just the first two years of life a baby will grow from not knowing anything to teaching its self how to think and process information, communicate with other people, and even walk!Â  I challenge anyone to format your hard drive and leave your computer running for two years and see if it comes up with its own form of windows that you can use to get on the internet. Any takers&#8230;?Â  We have had computers in some form or another since WWII (you know those tattoos on the Jew&#8217;s arms? those are IBM computer numbers) and that was over 70 years ago! To imagine that we do not have a computer that can think on its own, or break down simple sentences and create new subroutines to preform requests based on what the sentience means. The closest thing we have to a walking robot is that white Toyota thing that looks totally ridiculous. I mean if a baby can do these things in the first two years of life why haven&#8217;t we been able to make a computer do these things in an entire human&#8217;s lifetime? Wake up people your self importance is such a laughable joke.</p>
<p>Another thing I like to think about is the DNA Chicken and the Egg question. (Keep in mind this is really simplified) DNA can be thought of as a USB thumb drive that has a program on it &#8212; lets say it is your favorite video game and instructions that tell your computer how to run that game. So if you had a thumb drive with your favorite game on it what could you do with it if you do not have a computer? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! it is worthless with out a computer to read and interpret it! The &#8220;Simple Cell&#8221; (if you can call it &#8220;simple&#8221;) can be thought of as that computer we are needing to play our video game that resides on our thumb drive.Â  You put the thumb drive into the computer and like magic you are now able to play your game. So my question now is what can you do with just a computer and no programs for it to process? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! is is worthless with out a computer program!</p>
<p><strong>The Chicken or the Egg, DNA or Protein? </strong>(dang someone already came up with my phrase!)<br />
<a href="http://www.detectingdesign.com/abiogenesis.html" target="_blank">http://www.detectingdesign.com/abiogenesis.html</a></p>
<p>Lets explain how computers came into existence. Someone though hey lets create a device that we know as the &#8220;computer&#8221; that can do some type of calculations based on some type of changeable state (it would be kind of silly to just come up with the answer to 1+1 all day!)Â  and we call this a &#8220;program&#8221;. The first computers were based on switches that could be in either the on or off positionÂ  to form a combination of 1s and 0s. These ones and zeros are then combined to create numbers, and operations on those numbers to preform basic math much like a simple calculator would today. So now that I have given the history in a nutshell my question would be: did they come up with one, and then say &#8220;hmmm what could I do with this thingy?&#8221;&#8230; No They were designed at the same time! It is meaningless to have one with out the other! It would be like the person that first invited the bottle cap (they didn&#8217;t always twist off folks!) with out a way to open the dang thing &#8212; it would make no sense!</p>
<p>So if someone tells you that the body is a machine ask them &#8212; if that is true who designed it? Deny it all you want people, but I guess some people like to think of them selves as machines, while others like to think they are monkeys. Myself on the other hand know I am a divine child of the creator of the universe the God of the Jews &#8211; Yahweh (AKA Jesus), and he made me in his image. Unfortunately in this plane of existence we are all just prisoners of the flesh due to the failures of our parents, as so were they failed by their parents on down the line to Adam &amp; Eve at which time we were destined to the curses of this world. We too shall fail our children, but our ultimate goal is to educate them enough that when they pass from the shell of this world through death &#8211; unto the birth into the real existence that the most perfect heavenly father will smile upon them and say you have done well in my test &#8212; welcome to eternity in paradise, and you will be there watching.</p>
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		<title>Is Richard Dreyfuss A Luciferian?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 05:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We Are Change Chicago confronted Richard Dreyfuss about 9-11 truth. He said that it is too soon to investigate giving some BS about if they were to have built an Abraham Lincoln memorial right after the civil war there would not be an America today, and going on to say that we should not investigate [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We Are Change Chicago confronted Richard Dreyfuss about 9-11 truth. He said that it is too soon to investigate giving some BS about if they were to have built an Abraham Lincoln memorial right after the civil war there would not be an America today, and going on to say that we should not investigate 9-11 because &#8220;there are to many emotions involved&#8221;.Â  The thing that struck me is before the guy that questioned him got to ask his his question someone told Dreyfuss something about may the Angels and God bless you, and Dreyfuss responds something about Lucifier too (its not posted in the source below, but the guy called into the Alex Jones show and talked about it).Â  Unfortunately they did not get this on film because it was before they had the camera rolling.Â  Dreyfuss is a CFR member, and talks like a serpent when confronted with real issues.</p>
<p><em>In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. </em>- 2 Corinthians 4:4</p>
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<p>We Are Change Chicago Blog Talking About Dreyfuss&#8217; Lucifer Comment:<br />
<a href="http://www.meetup.com/wearechangechicago/boards/thread/7757959/">http://www.meetup.com/wearechangechicago/boards/thread/7757959/</a></p>
<p>Dreyfuss the CFR Member:<br />
<a href="http://www.cfr.org/publication/11062/history_makers_series.html">http://www.cfr.org/publication/11062/history_makers_series.html</a></p>
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		<title>Fall of the Republic &#8211; Presidency of Barack Obama &#8211; Vol 1</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 04:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brand new &#8211; came out yesterday! Another FREE &#38; EXCELLENT movie by Alex Jones that breaks down the housing collapse, banker take over, TV mind control, left/right paradigm, the Sports Tribalism control method, Global Warming Hoax, the power elite and their puppet Barack Obama. Send it to EVERYONE!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brand new &#8211; came out yesterday! Another FREE &amp; EXCELLENT movie by Alex Jones that breaks down the housing collapse, banker take over, TV mind control, left/right paradigm, the Sports Tribalism control method, Global Warming Hoax, the power elite and their puppet Barack Obama. Send it to EVERYONE!</p>
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		<title>One Child Policies, Abortion, And &#8216;Mercy Killing&#8217; &#8211; O How You Have Fallen</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you start disrespecting life with abortions, and treating people like animals saying whether or not they can reproduce this is what happens&#8230;. Chinese Eat Baby Soup for Sex China with their one child policy and the &#8220;must have a male child&#8221; mentality have started up some very disturbing practices. They are eating the aborted [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you start disrespecting life with abortions, and treating people like animals saying whether or not they can reproduce this is what happens&#8230;.</p>
<h2>Chinese Eat Baby Soup for Sex</h2>
<p>China with their one child policy and the &#8220;must have a male child&#8221; mentality have started up some very disturbing practices. They are eating the aborted babies as soon as they find out it is a girl. The earliest to tell the sex of the child is between 16 &amp; 18 weeks (so between 4 and 5 months).<br />
Warning this link actually shows pictures of Devils cooking and devouring a 5 month aborted old baby.<br />
<a href="http://theseoultimes.com/ST/?url=/ST/db/read.php?idx=7333">http://theseoultimes.com/ST/?url=/ST/db/read.php?idx=7333</a><br />_______________________________________</p>
<h2>A barbaric kind of beauty</h2>
<p>Women getting aborted babies injected into their faces to look younger, to bad these women are still ugly hag bitch inside.<br />
<a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-399376/A-barbaric-kind-beauty.html">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-399376/A-barbaric-kind-beauty.html</a><br />_______________________________________</p>
<h2>Baby Body Parts For Sale!</h2>
<p>Planned Parenthood (One of Bill Gates Murder Companies) has a scheme where it sells baby body parts to companies for experiments. I have read in other places they are talking about giving away &#8220;free&#8221; abortions because they are making so much money off of selling dead babies.<br />
<a href="http://lifedynamics.com/Abortion_Information/Baby_Body_Parts/index.cfm">http://lifedynamics.com/Abortion_Information/Baby_Body_Parts/index.cfm</a><br />_______________________________________</p>
<h2>Chinese army &#8216;harvesting body parts&#8217;</h2>
<p>China kills prisoners for their organs. You need an organ? One sec while I go pop some political dissident in the head.<br />
<a href="http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21152231-1702,00.html">http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21152231-1702,00.html</a><br />_______________________________________</p>
<h2>China makes ultimate punishment mobile</h2>
<p>And don&#8217;t forget the mobile organ harvesting buses.<br />
<a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-06-14-death-van_x.htm">http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-06-14-death-van_x.htm</a><br />_______________________________________</p>
<h2>What Barack Obama defended three times: Live Birth Abortion</h2>
<p>Live birth abortions (which Obama just loves and defends!) is the practice where they induce labor, and let the baby die after it is born.<br />
<a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2060118/posts">http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2060118/posts</a></p>
<h2>Litmus Tests, Slippery Slopes</h2>
<p>Article on how it should be Ok to murder babies with birth defects up to a week.<br />
<a href="http://www.usnews.com/usnews/opinion/articles/980126/archive_003047_2.htm">http://www.usnews.com/usnews/opinion/articles/980126/archive_003047_2.htm</a><br />_______________________________________</p>
<h2>Chilling Protocol</h2>
<p>Comment from a doctor about &#8220;Mercy Killing&#8221; babies â€œIt is in some ways beautifulâ€, yea nothing like snuffing out a baby.<br />
<a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/campbell200603130818.asp">http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/campbell200603130818.asp</a><br />_______________________________________</p>
<h2>Texas bill would decriminalize infanticide</h2>
<p>Why stop there? This was an attempt in Texas this year to make murdering a 1 year old or younger child a felony rather than homicide with max jail time as 2 years.<br />
<a href="http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2009/04/texas_bill_woul.html">http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2009/04/texas_bill_woul.html</a><br />_______________________________________</p>
<h2>Oregon Rationing Cancer Treatment but Offering Assisted Suicide to Cancer Patients Paying to Die but not to Live</h2>
<p>Insurance companies would rather pay to off you than treat your cancer. How long ago was all that Kevorkian garbage? And now its kosher?<br />
<a href="http://www.pccef.org/articles/art67.htm">http://www.pccef.org/articles/art67.htm</a><br />_______________________________________</p>
<h2>Aborted Babies Are Big Business</h2>
<p>This is a good summary article that helped me find some of the stuff posted above like the hags shooting dead babies into their face.</p>
<blockquote><p>â€œpuncturing the sac of a pregnant woman at let us say 14 to 16 weeks, and then they put a clamp on the head of the baby, pull the head down into the neck of the womb, drill a hole into the babyâ€™s head, and then put a suction machine into the brain and suck out the brain cells.â€</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.rutherford.org/articles_db/commentary.asp?record_id=385">http://www.rutherford.org/articles_db/commentary.asp?record_id=385</a><br />_______________________________________</p>
<p>What kind of ghouls are we turning into? In the beginning God did <strong>not </strong>say populate the earth up to 6 billion and then start feeding on your selves and killing your babies. I pray for God to strike down these daemons.</p>
<p>The world today reminds me of a time when me and Vincent (my previous step-father) went to go look at a house in Louisiana that was trashed by the previous owner (he wanted to get it for cheap and fix it up). They had left food in the refrigerator, and some how like they always do flies some how got in there and laid eggs in the rotten food. By the time Vincent and I had the privilege of opening the refrigerator the maggot-fly life cycle had already transpired several times over, and the mass of writhing maggots was feasting on a the black and rotten corpses of previous generations of maggots.</p>
<p>Here is End Game if you have not watched it yet&#8230;<br />
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 03:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
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