As people are also no doubt aware the breaking into of computers and releasing private information is illegal, and regardless of how they were obtained, posting private correspondence without permission is unethical. We therefore aren’t going to post any of the emails here.

They are taking the moral high ground by not posting the emails. My question is why don’t you just give your self permission and post your own emails? O yes, because you are some of the crooks behind this whole scandal, and it was your emails that were leaked.  So high roaders lets talk about unethical behavior. Is it ethical to try and black ball any scientific journal, or scientists that comes up with any evidence apposed to global warming? For a second lets pretend that global warming was true… call me crazy but wouldn’t it be a good thing if they found out the earth was not “warming” anymore?

We were made aware of the existence of this archive last Tuesday morning when the hackers attempted to upload it to RealClimate, and we notified CRU of their possible security breach later that day.

Nonetheless, these emails (a presumably careful selection of (possibly edited?) correspondence dating back to 1996 and as recently as Nov 12) are being widely circulated, and therefore require some comment.

Of course no one is allowed to think that there is a conspiracy about global warming, but these guys are allowed to say the hacker edited down to 120 megabytes of info ( 2000+ something files, emails, FORTRAN global warming code, models, etc…). So lets examine the hacker file editor conspiracy theory.  For this to happen I guess not only was this a super crazy hacker, but they were also a global warming expert that knows exactly what to cut out to post to the public. They also edited all this down in under a week? So I did a search on how much data is 120 megabytes:

How many 267 page books will fit on a 100 megabyte disk?

• Assume 2500 characters per page, or 2500 bytes per page.
• 2500 x 267 = 667,500 bytes/book 0r .6675 megabytes/book
• Therefore, the number of books is 100/.6675 = 149.8.  Let’s call it 149 books, or even 150.

http://www.facstaff.bucknell.edu/mastascu/elessonshtml/DataFiles/DataFile1.html

Well that’s a hell of a lot of data to have “careful selection” over and “edit” down. Don’t forget 120 megabytes is what they twiddled it down to in 5 days! or by last Tuesday did they mean the 10th?  So I guess they just immediately edited & posted them as they hacked the files off the server. Case solved! I have figured out the ClimateGate hacker’s identity.  Only one person I know that can hack computer systems, read & edit data at mind boggling speeds: Lt Commander Data!

Data you have been caught! Good Job!

Since emails are normally intended to be private, people writing them are shall we say, somewhat freer in expressing themselves than they would in a public statement.

This one from my perspective is interesting. From my experience while putting my self through school I first worked in a Wal-Mart store where the prerequisite to being hired is breathing. The level of childish things that went on were off the chart. I worked there for just over a year before I got a job doing computer support where you at least had to have a diploma. The level of drama was slightly lower but still nauseating. Once I graduated with my computer science degree and got a job with other professionals the drama level starts bouncing off of zero. So I’m guessing this rule does not apply to PhDs? Also they are dropping F-bombs in academic correspondence? Guess after Bachelors degree your ego explodes…

More interesting is what is not contained in the emails. There is no evidence of any worldwide conspiracy, no mention of George Soros nefariously funding climate research

By your own admissions your own website hosting is paid for by EMS.
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/02/a-disclaimer/

They try to down play it saying EMS does not buy them lunch, but how much does the bandwith for your site cost? Alexa.com ranks the site as 72,130th in the world, so I’m betting your bill is kind of high. They also say that EMS does not tell them what to write. Well my response to that would be if you turned around and said global warming was fake would they drop your site? I’m betting yes.
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/realclimate.org

Who founded EMS? Arlie Schardt who was Al Gore’s press secretary for his presidential run.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/choice2000/gore/schardt.html

Who is EMS? = EMS/Science Communication Network, A Project Of Tides Center
http://www.sos.wa.gov/charities/search_detail.aspx?charity_id=5740

Who funds EMS / Tides Foundation?
Rockefeller Brother’s Fund:
http://www.rbf.org/grantsdatabase/grantsdatabase_show.htm?doc_id=617346
http://www.rbf.org/grantsdatabase/grantsdatabase_show.htm?doc_id=617342
George Soros:
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/funderProfile.asp?fndid=5184

No doubt, instances of cherry-picked and poorly-worded “gotcha” phrases will be pulled out of context.

Ok, so lets point out some of the things they said in the emails, but did not mention in the “realclimate” page. They do this because they think everyone is to stupid to go read a handful of these email’s for themselves, and instead take their word for it.

This is one from Michael Mann. I’m guessing he is second in command at “realclimate”. So in this email they are stating the bias of “realclimate” by screening comments. I mean if global warming is so bullet proof why wouldn’t you welcome anyone’s idea, and shoot it down with in the means of science and proof?

Michael Mann’s Bio
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/category/extras/contributor-bios/

Original Filename: 1139521913.txt

From: “Michael E. Mann”
To: Tim Osborn , Keith Briffa
Subject: update
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 16:51:xxx xxxx xxxx
Reply-to: mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: Gavin Schmidt

guys, I see that Science has already gone online w/ the new issue, so we
put up the RC post. By now, you’ve probably read that nasty McIntyre
thing. Apparently, he violated the embargo on his website (I don’t go
there personally, but so I’m informed).

Anyway, I wanted you guys to know that you’re free to use RC in any way
you think would be helpful. Gavin and I are going to be careful about
what comments we screen through, and we’ll be very careful to answer any
questions that come up to any extent we can. On the other hand, you
might want to visit the thread and post replies yourself. We can hold
comments up in the queue and contact you about whether or not you think
they should be screened through or not, and if so, any comments you’d
like us to include.

You’re also welcome to do a followup guest post, etc. think of RC as a
resource that is at your disposal to combat any disinformation put
forward by the McIntyres of the world. Just let us know. We’ll use our
best discretion to make sure the skeptics dont’get to use the RC
comments as a megaphone…

mike

–
Michael E. Mann
Associate Professor
Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC)

Department of Meteorology Phone: (8xxx xxxx xxxx
503 Walker Building FAX: (8xxx xxxx xxxx
The Pennsylvania State University email: mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
University Park, PA 16xxx xxxx xxxx

http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm

This email is from Phil Jones the head of the Climatic Research Unit (CRU), and he tells fellow researchers to not tell anyone that there is a freedom of information act in the UK so that he can keep his global warming algorithm/data secret. Once again, if you have the proof what are you hiding? My comment is that forecasters cannot even tell me what the weather will be tomorrow — so what in the hell makes you think that anyone can tell you what the temperature will be in the next 5, 10, 15 years? He also says just to delete any FOI requests… nice.

Original Filename: 1109021312.txt

From: Phil Jones
To: mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: Fwd: CCNet: PRESSURE GROWING ON CONTROVERSIAL RESEARCHER TO DISCLOSE SECRET DATA
Date: Mon Feb 21 16:28:xxx xxxx xxxx
Cc: “raymond s. bradley” , “Malcolm Hughes”

Mike, Ray and Malcolm,
The skeptics seem to be building up a head of steam here ! Maybe we can use
this to our advantage to get the series updated !
Odd idea to update the proxies with satellite estimates of the lower troposphere
rather than surface data !. Odder still that they don’t realise that Moberg et al used the
Jones and Moberg updated series !
Francis Zwiers is till onside. He said that PC1s produce hockey sticks. He stressed
that the late 20th century is the warmest of the millennium, but Regaldo didn’t bother
with that. Also ignored Francis’ comment about all the other series looking similar
to MBH.
The IPCC comes in for a lot of stick.
Leave it to you to delete as appropriate !
Cheers
Phil
PS I’m getting hassled by a couple of people to release the CRU station temperature data.
Don’t any of you three tell anybody that the UK has a Freedom of Information Act !

X-Sender: f023@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:40:05 +0000
To: p.jones@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
From: Keith Briffa
Subject: Fwd: CCNet: PRESSURE GROWING ON CONTROVERSIAL RESEARCHER TO
DISCLOSE SECRET DATA

Subject: CCNet: PRESSURE GROWING ON CONTROVERSIAL RESEARCHER TO DISCLOSE SECRET DATA
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:02:xxx xxxx xxxx
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
Thread-Topic: pressure grows on climate modellers to relase secret data
Thread-Index: AcUXiV64e/f3Ii8uQSa0X88pndSQgQAl2O1w
From: “Peiser, Benny”
To: “cambridge-conference”
X-UEA-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information
X-UEA-MailScanner: Found to be clean
CCNet 22/2xxx xxxx xxxxFebruary 2005
PRESSURE GROWING ON CONTROVERSIAL RESEARCHER TO DISCLOSE SECRET DATA
——————————————————————–
This should have produced a healthy scientific debate. Instead, Mr. Mann tried
to shut down debate by refusing to disclose the mathematical algorithm by which
he arrived at his conclusions. All the same, Mr. Mann was forced to publish a
retraction of some of his initial data, and doubts about his statistical methods
have since grown.

Phil Jones telling Michael Mann to delete emails in regards to FOI — and Michael saying aye aye sir!

Original Filename: 1212063122.txt

From: Michael Mann
To: Phil Jones
Subject: Re: IPCC & FOI
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:12:02 -0400
Reply-to: mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx

Hi Phil,

laughable that CA would claim to have discovered the problem. They would
have run off to the Wall Street Journal for an exclusive were that to
have been true.

I’ll contact Gene about this ASAP. His new email is: generwahl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx

talk to you later,

mike

Phil Jones wrote:
>
>> Mike,
> Can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith re AR4?
> Keith will do likewise. He’s not in at the moment – minor family crisis.
>
> Can you also email Gene and get him to do the same? I don’t
> have his new email address.
>
> We will be getting Caspar to do likewise.
>
> I see that CA claim they discovered the 1945 problem in the Nature
> paper!!
>
> Cheers
> Phil
>
>
>
>>
>
> Prof. Phil Jones
> Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
> School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
> University of East Anglia
> Norwich Email p.jones@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
> NR4 7TJ
> UK
> —————————————————————————-
>

–
Michael E. Mann
Associate Professor
Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC)

Department of Meteorology Phone: (814) 863-4075
503 Walker Building FAX: (814) 865-3663
The Pennsylvania State University email: mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
University Park, PA 16802-5013

http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm

Phil Jones Threatens to delete data before giving it over in FOI request.

1107454306.txt

From: Phil Jones <p.jones@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: “Michael E. Mann” <mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: For your eyes only
Date: Thu Feb 3 13:11:46 2005

Mike,
It would be good to produce future series with and without the long
instrumental series and maybe the documentary ones as well. The long
measurements can then be used to validate the low-freq aspects at least
back to 1750, maybe earlier with the documentary. There are some key
warm decades (1730s, some in the 16th century) which the Moberg
reconstruction completely misses and gives the impression that all
years are cold between 1500 and 1750.
Away Feb 6-10 and 12-20 and 22-25 (last in Chicago – on the panel to
consider the vertical temp work of CCSP).
Cheers
Phil
Cheers
Phil
At 15:26 02/02/2005, you wrote:

Thanks Phil,
Yes, we’ve learned out lesson about FTP. We’re going to be very careful in the future
what gets put there. Scott really screwed up big time when he established that directory
so that Tim could access the data.
Yeah, there is a freedom of information act in the U.S., and the contrarians are going
to try to use it for all its worth. But there are also intellectual property rights
issues, so it isn’t clear how these sorts of things will play out ultimately in the U.S.
I saw the paleo draft (actually I saw an early version, and sent Keith some minor
comments). It looks very good at present–will be interesting to see how they deal w/
the contrarian criticisms–there will be many. I’m hoping they’ll stand firm (I believe
they will–I think the chapter has the right sort of personalities for that)…
Will keep you updated on stuff…
talk to you later,
mike
At 09:41 AM 2/2/2005, Phil Jones wrote:

Mike,
I presume congratulations are in order – so congrats etc !
Just sent loads of station data to Scott. Make sure he documents everything better
this time ! And don’t leave stuff lying around on ftp sites – you never know who is
trawling
them. The two MMs have been after the CRU station data for years. If they ever hear
there
is a Freedom of Information Act now in the UK, I think I’ll delete the file rather than
send
to anyone. Does your similar act in the US force you to respond to enquiries within
20 days? – our does ! The UK works on precedents, so the first request will test it.
We also
have a data protection act, which I will hide behind. Tom Wigley has sent me a worried
email when he heard about it – thought people could ask him for his model code. He
has retired officially from UEA so he can hide behind that. IPR should be relevant
here,
but I can see me getting into an argument with someone at UEA who’ll say we must adhere
to it !
Are you planning a complete reworking of your paleo series? Like to be involved if
you are.
Had a quick look at Ch 6 on paleo of AR4. The MWP side bar references Briffa, Bradley,
Mann, Jones, Crowley, Hughes, Diaz – oh and Lamb ! Looks OK, but I can’t see it
getting past all the stages in its present form. MM and SB get dismissed. All the
right
emphasis is there, but the wording on occasions will be crucial. I expect this to be
the
main contentious issue in AR4. I expect (hope) that the MSU one will fade away. It
seems
the more the CCSP (the thing Tom Karl is organizing) looks into Christy and Spencer’s
series, the more problems/issues they are finding. I might be on the NRC review panel,
so will keep you informed.
Rob van Dorland is an LA on the Radiative Forcing chapter, so he’s a paleo expert
by GRL statndards.
Cheers
Phil
At 13:41 02/02/2005, you wrote:

Phil–thought I should let you know that its official now that I’ll be moving to Penn
State next Fall.
I’ll be in the Meteorology Dept. & Earth and Environmental Systems Institute, and plan
to head up a center for “Earth System History” within the institute. Will keep you
updated,
Mike

Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email p.jones@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
NR4 7TJ
UK
—————————————————————————-

______________________________________________________________
Professor Michael E. Mann
Department of Environmental Sciences, Clark Hall
University of Virginia
Charlottesville, VA 22903
_______________________________________________________________________
e-mail: mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Phone: (434) 924-7770 FAX: (434) 982-2137
[1]http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml

Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email p.jones@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
NR4 7TJ
UK
—————————————————————————-

References

1. http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml

this is the article I have been bashing:

The CRU hack

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/11/the-cru-hack/

You Too Can Read The Actual Emails… I just got through doing it for the past 4 or 5 hours, and I have to say a lot of them just plain old suck…

Me: Lt Commander Data!

Data: Yes captain?!

Me: next time do a better job screening the emails so I can just read the cool ones, and make one of the scientests murder a climate skeptic too, might as well make them really look bad!

Data:  aye aye captain!

http://www.eastangliaemails.com/